In some ways, a border is this completely arbitrary designation that two sides have to agree on or not.
But even in wars, what does it mean to own a piece of territory?
Because it has certainly been really interesting for us to explore [war] in this kind of framework, as opposed to just, what are the coolest battles we can have?
Baked into the Whisperer story is this idea of the border, the spiked border, and just thinking historically about all the kinds of border conflicts that people have gotten into, that we get into right now in our own country.