I mean, from a psychological point of view, you maybe have the person that is like, ‘Fuck you, I’m getting out, and don’t call me ever again, I don’t have a mom.’
Obviously, I think Karen is the second one.
I think probably [because of] Ray [Karen’s husband, played by Toby Huss] and work.
Or you have the person that fights and kicks and screams, but is never going to give up on getting that relationship right with a parent.